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or, if you have a john kerry of the candidate, that did not perform well. >> you have news and worried all year but the implications of the republican party. -- you have mused and worried all year about the implications of the republican party. what are the implications of mitt romney and the republican party losing? >> the demographics that we have all discussed have been obvious for a long time. the proportion of whites in the national electorate of the last four presidential campaigns has gone 81%, 77%, 74%, 72%. this is not a secret. but sometimes, the of this does not become apparent until we have an election like this. but now the obvious is readily apparent to anyone, particularly in the republicans who don't have their heads in the sand. mitt romney did extremely well among whites, as you say. he won whites by a landslide and still lost the election. we not only lost hispanics by a larger proportion than john mccain, 71%-27%, we lost asians by 73% best -- 73%-27%. bob dole won asians. a lot of people don't remember that. we are in a position now where we have gone through diffe
or, if you have a john kerry of the candidate, that did not perform well. >> you have news and worried all year but the implications of the republican party. -- you have mused and worried all year about the implications of the republican party. what are the implications of mitt romney and the republican party losing? >> the demographics that we have all discussed have been obvious for a long time. the proportion of whites in the national electorate of the last four presidential...
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john kerry probably has more, but susan rice has served as u.n. ambassador and she's got know a lot of foreign experience, certain, from that experience. she's been at the state department bore, too. i mean, her history is in foreign policy. she hasn't opinion secretary of state. he hasn't been on the hill in the capacity john kerry is, but she certainly is experienced. >> reporter: the aforementioned general petraeus, a story that continues to rock this town. the president talked about it at the press conference, said it was a sad personal saga. actually said very nice things about david petraeus' contributions to his country, and also said-- i'm not sure the exact word he used-- but basically no top vent intelligen was revealed. >> i think he made a point of saying so far. and so far, there is not any negative effect on national security. but this investigation is clearly still open. you have hagents going into paula broadwell's house, taking out boxes, taking out her computer. they are still looking for classified material. whatever too soon ma
john kerry probably has more, but susan rice has served as u.n. ambassador and she's got know a lot of foreign experience, certain, from that experience. she's been at the state department bore, too. i mean, her history is in foreign policy. she hasn't opinion secretary of state. he hasn't been on the hill in the capacity john kerry is, but she certainly is experienced. >> reporter: the aforementioned general petraeus, a story that continues to rock this town. the president talked about...
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it is just that john kerry deserves it. he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and oh, by the way again without john kerry saying oh yeah, president obama, barack obama you can do the keynote speech in 2004 when you're only a state senator who's running for senate without that opportunity, there is no obama campaign in 2008. john kerry wants the job. give it to him. got some guy malcolm johnson would calls that 100% idiotic statement. too bad, malcolm. that's how it is. special shout out to the folks on twitter. dab ra and alan -- debra and alan and a couple of others. honesty following us on twitter. >> tweeting at bp show, on this topic, patricia says the media has been reduced to reporting g.o.p. conspiracy theories which is a good point. buckeye kenny saying they're going to try to turn this into something to ruin the president and on your comments about john kerry, j. h. z. says john kerry and state put scott brown in the senate. just a thought. >> what? >> doesn't necessarily put him in the senate
it is just that john kerry deserves it. he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and oh, by the way again without john kerry saying oh yeah, president obama, barack obama you can do the keynote speech in 2004 when you're only a state senator who's running for senate without that opportunity, there is no obama campaign in 2008. john kerry wants the job. give it to him. got some guy malcolm johnson would calls that 100% idiotic statement. too bad, malcolm. that's how it is....
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i would leave the senate for that opportunity if i was john kerry. i don't think i would leave it for defense for all of the reasons you said. i think that's an important point to be made. >>s there's also the seat in massachusetts which is a huge political problem. the notion scott brown would be a frontrunner to replace kerry if he were to tep out of that seat. the democrats have a little more cushion but not a seat that democrats would want to put in jeopardy and that's a mark against kerry. you also have someone very good in the senate in jack reed from rhode island who a lot think would be a great defense secretary. they have options. again to go to chuck hagel, strong people out there for both these jobs. they will fill them well one way or the other. >> and one point, chuck hagel is, of course, ray lahood was a republican but i think ray is probably going to leave as well. chuck hagel would be a great appointment and he's best suited for defense. wouldn't you agree with that? >> i think that's probably right. >> if you have reached a consensus
i would leave the senate for that opportunity if i was john kerry. i don't think i would leave it for defense for all of the reasons you said. i think that's an important point to be made. >>s there's also the seat in massachusetts which is a huge political problem. the notion scott brown would be a frontrunner to replace kerry if he were to tep out of that seat. the democrats have a little more cushion but not a seat that democrats would want to put in jeopardy and that's a mark against...
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right now, they favor john kerry as the next secretary of state. they work well with him and think he has the experience. i don't think it has to do with her womanhood. beyond that, this is shaping up as a nasty fight. it could get quite personal. and i think everybody has an interest and sort of we just had an election and we are trying to create a bipartisanship in washington. and i think she may have to do some private rounds and that would help a lot. >> a lot of talk about the impending fiscal cliff. did you hear anything from the president that sounded like a compromise that would work? >> not today. this is a president who clearly feels that he has got a lot of leverage now. i heard that in the president today. and what he was doing was -- and dan i can talk more about this, calling the republican bluff. saying one thing that we all agree on is extending the tax cuts for the middle class. they believe that if they were to do that, they would lose their leverage but the president was saying okay guys, let's do this and then we'll move onto th
right now, they favor john kerry as the next secretary of state. they work well with him and think he has the experience. i don't think it has to do with her womanhood. beyond that, this is shaping up as a nasty fight. it could get quite personal. and i think everybody has an interest and sort of we just had an election and we are trying to create a bipartisanship in washington. and i think she may have to do some private rounds and that would help a lot. >> a lot of talk about the...
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kerry, who is responsible for obama's year. he picked him to be the keynote speaker in 2004. >> reporter: the president still has never actually said he was going to nominate susan rice, anyway. so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. mark, thanks so much for coming in. we always appreciate you being here. >>> a local toll road raising its rates again. find out how much it will cost you to drive, coming up. >>> and maryland's biggest casino making major changes. we are talking about tailgates. >>> it is cold out there right now. a few high cloud. temperatures are head down below 32 degrees in many spots and into the mid-30s i'll let you know what to expect tomorrow and we are looking closely at the weekend, too, coming your way. >>> and george washington university has been tossed off the list of america's best colleges find out why, at 11:00. ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >>> the largest casino in maryland announced th
kerry, who is responsible for obama's year. he picked him to be the keynote speaker in 2004. >> reporter: the president still has never actually said he was going to nominate susan rice, anyway. so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. mark, thanks so much for coming in. we always appreciate you being here. >>> a local toll road raising its rates again. find out how much it will cost you to drive, coming up. >>> and maryland's biggest casino making major...
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sean hannidy said john kerry needs to be vetted. he served on the senate foreign affairs committee for 28 years. he was vetted when he got the bronze star in vietnam, when he got the silver star in vietnam, three purple hearts. now they are attacking susan rice, a stanford grad, a rhoads scholar, serves in the clinton administration and served as a u.n. ambassador. get over it. you lost last week. time for america to come together. it is a disgrace they are playing politics with our foreign policy. >> now, governor, senator mccain last month said -- well, let me let you hear what he said. this is amazing to me. >> it's very clear this was a colossal failure that cost the lives of four brave young americans. there has not been an intelligence fail like this in my lifetime and i have been around for a long time. >> there has not been an intelligence fail like this in his lifetime? what about 9/11? what about the iraq war with weapons of mass destruction where 3,000 americans died? what's he talking about? >> four americans are obvious
sean hannidy said john kerry needs to be vetted. he served on the senate foreign affairs committee for 28 years. he was vetted when he got the bronze star in vietnam, when he got the silver star in vietnam, three purple hearts. now they are attacking susan rice, a stanford grad, a rhoads scholar, serves in the clinton administration and served as a u.n. ambassador. get over it. you lost last week. time for america to come together. it is a disgrace they are playing politics with our foreign...
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the first thing i want to point out -- 2004, when john kerry ran against george w. bush, the proportion of the electorate that was white, according to the exit polls, was 79%. 79 and everyone hundred voters were non-hispanic white. four years later, and in 2008, that number had declined to 74%. this year, that number declined to 72%. in the meantime, the african- american share of the vote over that time increased from 11 to 13. the hispanic share from six to 10. and the asian american share from one to three. we are experiencing serious demographic change. if you look at these different populations, the white population, the non-spec white population in the united states is a seat -- it aging. the median age is 42. that means half the white people in the united states are older than 42. the median age for the black population is 33. the median age for the hispanic population is 25. half the hispanic population in the united states right now is the younger than 25 years old. what does that mean? it would not mean anything if our politics and parties were not largely
the first thing i want to point out -- 2004, when john kerry ran against george w. bush, the proportion of the electorate that was white, according to the exit polls, was 79%. 79 and everyone hundred voters were non-hispanic white. four years later, and in 2008, that number had declined to 74%. this year, that number declined to 72%. in the meantime, the african- american share of the vote over that time increased from 11 to 13. the hispanic share from six to 10. and the asian american share...
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. >> oo senator john kerry the democratic presidential nominee and foreign relations committee serving as defense secretary. the vietnam veteran who turned against the war he through away the medals he had been awarded and would be in the position to award such medals today. >> there would be significant concerns along the lines you raise as senator kerry. >> whether it's the defense department or state department but i have known him since 1985 he never once mentioned wanting to be secretary of defense. >> the spokeswoman says his only focus is job as seenor senator of massachusetts and chairman of the foreign relations committee. james rosen, fox news. >>> it is 25 minutes after the hour. coming up next one of general petraeus's closest friends are speaking out about the general's affair. >> he didn't take any of his team to the cia. he didn't have any one to confide in on a personal level. >> what else did the general tell his friends about the affair with paula broadwell? we will tell you about that. >> president obama might have won a second term but it doesn't mean they are backi
. >> oo senator john kerry the democratic presidential nominee and foreign relations committee serving as defense secretary. the vietnam veteran who turned against the war he through away the medals he had been awarded and would be in the position to award such medals today. >> there would be significant concerns along the lines you raise as senator kerry. >> whether it's the defense department or state department but i have known him since 1985 he never once mentioned wanting...
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there's a lot of talk for john kerry going down to the defense department. >> indeed. nbc's mike viqueira. thanks so much. we'll be right back to "clear the air." ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. can help make you a better investor. our e-trade 360 investing dashboard shows you where your money is, live. e-trade pro is so usable you'll actually use it. and our apps are the ultimate in mobile investing. become a better investor at e-trade. hu
there's a lot of talk for john kerry going down to the defense department. >> indeed. nbc's mike viqueira. thanks so much. we'll be right back to "clear the air." ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year...
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i think it was as dismal as john kerry. the difference between romney losing and bush winning is just the democratic shift in the country from 2004-2012. looking that where the republicans go, again and, the best way to approach this is to try to figure out how you deal with the key groups. with the help of todd akin and mourdock, you look. there are small parts. immigration and his veering onto the right and his unwillingness to have a discussion with latino voters. and then with african-american voters, all the talk about voter suppression or democrats trying to keep to increase the turnover tremendously. >> i would be really interested to hear on some of this. one, in the primary, and one in the general were a thought, "really?" in the debate with rick perry, he attacked rick perry and moved to the right of him for signing a dream act in texas. that would have been the first one. it may have worked in the primary but it had long-term consequences. the second was saying more than once he was going to get rid of planned pa
i think it was as dismal as john kerry. the difference between romney losing and bush winning is just the democratic shift in the country from 2004-2012. looking that where the republicans go, again and, the best way to approach this is to try to figure out how you deal with the key groups. with the help of todd akin and mourdock, you look. there are small parts. immigration and his veering onto the right and his unwillingness to have a discussion with latino voters. and then with...
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the liberals are all afraid if you make john kerry john kerry secretary of state scott brown he's sitting there in his truck in massachusetts, he's got a big fund raising apparatus he's ready to campaign. he has the ground organization ready. and he will just try to snatch up john kerry's seat. you know what? the folks in massachusetts might go ahead and vote for him just to watch him and elizabeth warren have to be colleagues together after their ugly campaign. voters have done much sillier things. i was in california when austrian weightlifter got to be governor. i think that's a really good point. i think you're seeing them doing everything they can to make sure the president doesn't even try to nominate susan rice. that explains the president's anger on an even deeper level. they want john kerry in the senate because they want a chance to pick up another seat. they're ten votes behind the democrats in the senate now and i think it's the most logical explanation possible. but we want to know what you think at 1-866-55-press. john is calling us from vancouver, washington. john, are you.
the liberals are all afraid if you make john kerry john kerry secretary of state scott brown he's sitting there in his truck in massachusetts, he's got a big fund raising apparatus he's ready to campaign. he has the ground organization ready. and he will just try to snatch up john kerry's seat. you know what? the folks in massachusetts might go ahead and vote for him just to watch him and elizabeth warren have to be colleagues together after their ugly campaign. voters have done much sillier...
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they favor john kerry as next secretary of state. they think he has the requisite experience. i don't think it has anything to do with her womanhood. it goes to confidence. this is a nasty fight. could could get very personal, it could go mondano-o-mano. it is very personal. we are trying to create a sense of bipartisanship to get this calmed down. i think the president would send some quiet elm sears up to capitol hill to see if he has the votes to avoid a filibuster. and i think she would have to do some private rounds that will help a lot perhaps in defuzzing some of this. >> a lot of talk about the impending fiscal cliff. congressional leaders headed to the white house for high-level talks on this. did you hear anything that sounded like a compromise? >> not today. but, look this is a president that clearly feels that he's got a lot of leverage now. and while i heard that in the president today and what he was doing was essentially, and dana can talk more about this than i can, calling the republican cluf and saying one thing we all agree on is extending tax cuts for the m
they favor john kerry as next secretary of state. they think he has the requisite experience. i don't think it has anything to do with her womanhood. it goes to confidence. this is a nasty fight. could could get very personal, it could go mondano-o-mano. it is very personal. we are trying to create a sense of bipartisanship to get this calmed down. i think the president would send some quiet elm sears up to capitol hill to see if he has the votes to avoid a filibuster. and i think she would...
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they favor john kerry as the next secretary of state. they work well with him, and they think he has the requisite experience. i don't think that it has to do with her womanhood, but goes down to the confidence question. this is shaping up as a very nasty fight. it could get quite personal. it could go mano-o-mano. it is very personal. we are trying to create a sense of bipartisanship to get this calmed down. what the president needs to do, i think, is to have some quiet emissaries up on capitol hill to see if he has the votes to beat a filibuster, and i think she would have to do some private rounds that will help a lot in defusing this. >> a lot of talk about the impending fiscal cliff. congressional leaders headed to the white house for the high-level talks on this. did you hear anything that sounded like a compromise? >> no, not today. and this is not to say we won't. but, look, this is a president that clearly feels that he's got a lot of leverage now. and while i --i heard that in the president today and what he was doing was essen
they favor john kerry as the next secretary of state. they work well with him, and they think he has the requisite experience. i don't think that it has to do with her womanhood, but goes down to the confidence question. this is shaping up as a very nasty fight. it could get quite personal. it could go mano-o-mano. it is very personal. we are trying to create a sense of bipartisanship to get this calmed down. what the president needs to do, i think, is to have some quiet emissaries up on...
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would john kerry make a good secretary of defense. we'll talk about the petraeus scandal. >> brian: decision day for nancy pelosi. will she stay or will she go now [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! ♪ nespresso. where there's a coffee to match my every mood. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect cup. where every cappuccino and latte is made with fresh milk. ♪ and where clothing is optional. nespresso. what else? when we got married. and where clothing is optional. i had three kids. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. >> gretchen: 14 minutes after the top of the hour. days before the president ideal election, numerous rep
would john kerry make a good secretary of defense. we'll talk about the petraeus scandal. >> brian: decision day for nancy pelosi. will she stay or will she go now [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! ♪ nespresso. where there's a coffee to match my every mood. ♪ where just one touch...
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john kerry, same thing, but no place in politics, no elective office that mitt romney holds. i don't see where he easily fits back into the party. >> he can become a cable tv host. one of those networks out there. what do you think? you think he has -- a lot of the republican party today, he's gone, over, history. it sounded like a valedictory. he was sort of going to recede, did it twice. tried, lost and there were a lot of people who recorded him as a transitional figure even when he was nominee of the party. so i think he'll go back to business, maybe to bayne capital, who knows? i don't see politics in his future. >> what about paul ryan? will he just pick up where he left off? or do you see him broaden out? >> he has time. listen, he has something that is very hard for a house member to get and that is nationwide recognition. he is also a bonafide brainiac with budget things. you may not agree with what he likes to do with the budget, but he understand. so there is still a place for him there. he does speak for the conservative win in the fiscal part, and also very pragm
john kerry, same thing, but no place in politics, no elective office that mitt romney holds. i don't see where he easily fits back into the party. >> he can become a cable tv host. one of those networks out there. what do you think? you think he has -- a lot of the republican party today, he's gone, over, history. it sounded like a valedictory. he was sort of going to recede, did it twice. tried, lost and there were a lot of people who recorded him as a transitional figure even when he...
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kerry which opens up the senate seat to mass, let's deal with that later. the question for the governor. you affirm the intelligence assessments read on the sunday shows were wrong. and i think it's fair and obvious that the intelligence leading up to the attack was wrong and missed the attack. so can you talk about what type of massive or maybe not so massive intelligence failure occurred on the president's watch and what can be done to actually fix that? >> look, what the president has said and what is going on is an investigation. ambassador tom pickering, probably the most senior member conducting that investigation, you to read all of the e-mails, all of the cables, all of the meetings, and you make an assessment of who bears some responsibility in this issue. is it diplomatic security? is intelligence? i think there's another issue here which really concerns me and that at one point the disclosure of some of our libyan assets was made publicly by one of the house committees. i think we have to be very careful about issues like sources and methods to e
kerry which opens up the senate seat to mass, let's deal with that later. the question for the governor. you affirm the intelligence assessments read on the sunday shows were wrong. and i think it's fair and obvious that the intelligence leading up to the attack was wrong and missed the attack. so can you talk about what type of massive or maybe not so massive intelligence failure occurred on the president's watch and what can be done to actually fix that? >> look, what the president has...
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john kerry in 2004 won it by 1 percentage point, and then mitt romney in this election just last week won it by 5 percentage points but lost. it raises the question, you know, it's always good to win independent voters, but it might not determinative of an election. >> what is the lesson learned here. it's great to consider those that are independent, they're not strongly tied to one aparty or the other. if they're not the difference maker, not that they should be ignored, but how much do you play to them? >> the difference maker seems to be in all the elections the party identification. having democrats or republicans more than the opposition, that's a very good indication who is going to end up winning an election. the other thing is how do you define "independents"? are they right down the middle and swing from one election to another? or as the theory goes, when the political wins are against their party, they're republican, they're not happy with the republican party. they say i'm going to call myself an independent because i'm angry with what's going on the last two or three yea
john kerry in 2004 won it by 1 percentage point, and then mitt romney in this election just last week won it by 5 percentage points but lost. it raises the question, you know, it's always good to win independent voters, but it might not determinative of an election. >> what is the lesson learned here. it's great to consider those that are independent, they're not strongly tied to one aparty or the other. if they're not the difference maker, not that they should be ignored, but how much do...
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and all of a sudden what i thought two days ago was more likely a nomination to go to john kerry. don't be surpriseded now, the president basically says, fine, to senate republicans, let's have this confirmation battle. the president's main goal, of course, at the press conference was to make the case that the public fully supports his view on the deficit reduction. and that means tax hikes on the rich as part of that solution. >> i think every voter out there understood that that was an important debate. and the majority of voters greed with me. not -- by the way, more voters greed with me on this issue than voted for me. >> he's referring to that exit poll number that we showed you yesterday on taxes. now, although the president drew a line in the sand making it clear that the bush era tax rates for the top 2% will go away, he left wiggle room on how high those rates could get and how those new tax revenues will be configured, explicitly not ruling out a compromise that could leave the top tax rates lower than they were during the clinton years. >> i'm open to compromise. and i'
and all of a sudden what i thought two days ago was more likely a nomination to go to john kerry. don't be surpriseded now, the president basically says, fine, to senate republicans, let's have this confirmation battle. the president's main goal, of course, at the press conference was to make the case that the public fully supports his view on the deficit reduction. and that means tax hikes on the rich as part of that solution. >> i think every voter out there understood that that was an...
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john kerry is still, you know, a contender for this. he would also make a very good secretary of state. i want to go back to the whole question of what capitol hill's engagement in this should be. i think in some ways we're looking -- we're asking some of the wrong questions. to my mind, in addition to the questions about what happened in this particular episode, we should revisit the state department's request for $300 million more in security for its embassies and consulates last, which was roundly rejected by republicans in congress. i believe that any republican who is on record rejecting that $300 million request to beef up security should answer questions from the press that have not been asked, i should note, as to why they objected to approving what the state department understandably felt was the need to improve its securities at those embassies. which needless to say, might have helped in this situation. >> of course, we look forward to hearing paul ryan's response to those questions. >> not just ryan, all of them. >> indeed.
john kerry is still, you know, a contender for this. he would also make a very good secretary of state. i want to go back to the whole question of what capitol hill's engagement in this should be. i think in some ways we're looking -- we're asking some of the wrong questions. to my mind, in addition to the questions about what happened in this particular episode, we should revisit the state department's request for $300 million more in security for its embassies and consulates last, which was...
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john kerry, same thing, but no place in politics, no elective office that mitt romney holds. i don't see where he easily fits back into this party at this point. >> he can become a cable tv host. >> who knows. >> with one of those networks out there. what do you think? you think he has -- a lot of the republican party today -- >> he's gone, he's over, history. it w it sounded like a valedictory. he didn't talk about our cause will live, we're going to continue to fight in the future. it was sort of like he was going to recede, he had done it twice, he lost. there are a lot of people who regarded him as the transitional figurine when he was the nominee of the party. so i think he'll go back to business, maybe to bain capital, who knows. i don't see politics in his future. >> what about paul ryan? he's long been considered one of the rising stars of the republican congress. will he just pick up where he left off? or do you see him try to broaden out, claim the mantle of the party standard bearer? >> he has time. listen, he has something that is very hard for a house member to g
john kerry, same thing, but no place in politics, no elective office that mitt romney holds. i don't see where he easily fits back into this party at this point. >> he can become a cable tv host. >> who knows. >> with one of those networks out there. what do you think? you think he has -- a lot of the republican party today -- >> he's gone, he's over, history. it w it sounded like a valedictory. he didn't talk about our cause will live, we're going to continue to fight...
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kerry and u.n. ambassador susan rice, who has been caught up in the questions about benghazi. so if hillary clinton does leave, does that put more pressure on the president to go in a different direction other than susan rice? >> well, i'm only speculating now, because my reporting on this dates back to well before the election when i got a little bit focused there. i will say that if you talk to people in democratic establishment and political establishment on the hill and in national security circles, you do find that neither of those candidates is seen right now as a perfect choice. there are drawbacks to both of them. ambassador rice has a lot of supporters first and foremost, the president to be sure. controversy over her public statements about benghazi give people pause about whether she's the right person with a confirmation process over, whether she's the right person for the job. in the case of senator kerry, there's doubts from some people about whether he'd be the perfect secretary of st
kerry and u.n. ambassador susan rice, who has been caught up in the questions about benghazi. so if hillary clinton does leave, does that put more pressure on the president to go in a different direction other than susan rice? >> well, i'm only speculating now, because my reporting on this dates back to well before the election when i got a little bit focused there. i will say that if you talk to people in democratic establishment and political establishment on the hill and in national...